diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index 387c06b1c..586a674ae 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
 #### 2.652 (July, 2026)
 * Fix to recognize hex numeric HTML entities to work in various elements
 * Fix `patch` sub-command to reload Webmin instead of restarting
+* Fix SSL certificate and TCP monitors to report connection, timeout and DNS failures as down or timed out rather than uninstalled
 
 #### 2.651 (June 28, 2026)
 * Fix Certbot-backed certificate requests and renewals to correctly parse PEM paths after issuance
diff --git a/status/lang/en b/status/lang/en
index 5aba641ad..9576fb4de 100644
--- a/status/lang/en
+++ b/status/lang/en
@@ -102,6 +102,7 @@ mon_down=Down
 mon_webmin=Webmin Down
 mon_timeout=Timed out
 mon_not=Not installed
+mon_eload=Monitor program $1 failed to load : $2
 mon_ondown=If monitor goes down, run command
 mon_onup=If monitor comes up, run command
 mon_ontimeout=If monitor times out, run command
@@ -222,6 +223,8 @@ tcp_alarm=Connection timeout
 tcp_ehost=Missing or invalid hostname
 tcp_eport=Missing or invalid port number
 tcp_ealarm=Missing or invalid connection timeout
+tcp_esocket=Failed to create TCP socket : $1
+tcp_eresolve=Failed to resolve host name $1
 
 http_url=URL to request
 http_alarm=Connection timeout
@@ -558,6 +561,7 @@ sslcert_eurl=Missing, invalid or non-SSL URL
 sslcert_efile=Missing or invalid certificate file
 sslcert_ecert=Could not get certificate
 sslcert_edown=Web server is down
+sslcert_etimeout=Timed out connecting to web server
 sslcert_days=Days before expiry to fail
 sslcert_when=When expired
 sslcert_mismatch=Also detect hostname mismatch?
diff --git a/status/sslcert-monitor.pl b/status/sslcert-monitor.pl
index 7b8c9c9a3..c0f8baf74 100755
--- a/status/sslcert-monitor.pl
+++ b/status/sslcert-monitor.pl
@@ -2,6 +2,8 @@
 
 sub get_sslcert_status
 {
+# The openssl command is needed for all checks
+&has_command("openssl") || return { 'up' => -1 };
 local $up = 0;
 local $desc;
 local $certfile;
@@ -21,12 +23,15 @@ if ($_[0]->{'url'}) {
 		# don't support it
 		$cmd = "openssl s_client -host ".quotemeta($host).
 		       " -port ".quotemeta($port)." </dev/null 2>&1";
-		$out = &backquote_with_timeout($cmd, 10);
+		($out, $timed) = &backquote_with_timeout($cmd, 10);
 		}
 	if ($?) {
-		# Connection failed
-		return { 'up' => -1,
-			 'desc' => $text{'sslcert_edown'} };
+		# Connection failed or timed out, meaning the web server
+		# is down rather than the monitor being uninstalled
+		return $timed ? { 'up' => -3,
+				  'desc' => $text{'sslcert_etimeout'} }
+			      : { 'up' => 0,
+				  'desc' => $text{'sslcert_edown'} };
 		}
 
 	# Extract the cert part and save
@@ -62,6 +67,11 @@ if ($info =~ /Not\s*Before\s*:\s*(.*)/i) {
 if ($info =~ /Not\s+After\s*:\s*(.*)/i) {
 	$end = &mailboxes::parse_mail_date("$1");
 	}
+if (!$end) {
+	# Certificate could not be parsed, so it cannot be considered OK
+	return { 'up' => 0,
+		 'desc' => $text{'sslcert_ecert'} };
+	}
 local $now = time();
 if ($start && $now < $start) {
 	# Too new?!
diff --git a/status/status-lib.pl b/status/status-lib.pl
index 6a11ef597..a00d1e9de 100755
--- a/status/status-lib.pl
+++ b/status/status-lib.pl
@@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ foreach $r (&expand_remotes($serv)) {
 			$remote_error_msg = undef;
 			&remote_foreign_require($r, 'status', 'status-lib.pl')
 				if (!$done_remote_status{$r}++);
-			my $webmindown = $s->{'type'} eq 'alive' ? 0 : -2;
+			my $webmindown = $serv->{'type'} eq 'alive' ? 0 : -2;
 			if ($remote_error_msg) {
 				$rv = { 'up' => $webmindown,
 					 'desc' => "$text{'mon_webmin'} : $remote_error_msg" };
@@ -195,7 +195,11 @@ foreach $r (&expand_remotes($serv)) {
 			}
 		else {
 			# Just include and use the local monitor library
-			do "${t}-monitor.pl" if (!$done_monitor{$t}++);
+			my $mfile = "$module_root_directory/${t}-monitor.pl";
+			if (-r $mfile && !$done_monitor{$t}++) {
+				do $mfile;
+				$done_monitor_err{$t} = "$@" if ($@);
+				}
 			my $func = "get_${t}_status";
 			if (defined(&$func)) {
 				$rv = &$func($serv,
@@ -203,7 +207,12 @@ foreach $r (&expand_remotes($serv)) {
 				     $fromcgi);
 				}
 			else {
+				# Monitor type is unknown, or its program
+				# failed to load
 				$rv = { 'up' => -1 };
+				$rv->{'desc'} = &text('mon_eload', $mfile,
+						      $done_monitor_err{$t})
+					if ($done_monitor_err{$t});
 				}
 			}
 		alarm(0);
diff --git a/status/tcp-monitor.pl b/status/tcp-monitor.pl
index 479b0c935..d4e3bf740 100755
--- a/status/tcp-monitor.pl
+++ b/status/tcp-monitor.pl
@@ -5,9 +5,11 @@ sub get_tcp_status
 {
 # Connect to the server
 socket(SOCK, PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, getprotobyname("tcp")) ||
-	return { 'up' => -1 };
+	return { 'up' => -3,
+		 'desc' => &text('tcp_esocket', $!) };
 local $addr = inet_aton($_[0]->{'host'});
-return { 'up' => -1 } if (!$addr);
+return { 'up' => 0,
+	 'desc' => &text('tcp_eresolve', $_[0]->{'host'}) } if (!$addr);
 local $st = time();
 local $rv;
 eval {
@@ -18,7 +20,7 @@ eval {
 	alarm(0);
 	};
 return { 'up' => 0 } if ($@);
-return { 'up' => $rv,
+return { 'up' => $rv ? 1 : 0,
 	 'time' => time() - $st };
 }